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Could be.. but I am not interested in that battle. I sincerely hope this βbattleβ will not rage on this beautIful website.
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I couldn't disagree more. Go up on Reddit r/pinkfloyd and tell me that the factions aren't at war. It's ridiculous.Originally posted by keleven View PostOff surfing with Linda, of course...Comment
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To be fair, the entire subreddit is just a bunch of edgy teenagers who think that the looping "Stone" sound in Dogs is hilarious. I disagree as well, but I think it's a bad example to use the Reddit page.Originally posted by aybesea View PostComment
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I think a lot of people are being too quick in dismissing this. I think the spoken word in place of the solos is peak Roger musical storytelling. The way he paints a picture using his words and how he uses the existing music to complement what's happening in the story is something only Roger can do. I think this redux version will be a real treat for fans of his solo work, specially fans of pros and cons and amused to death.Comment
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Just had a proper listen to Money on my JBL headphones, and I really like it, it's very dreamy and atmospheric. It reminded me quite a lot of the version he did of The Soldier's Tale which I also quite like.
Very curious to listen to the whole album when it comes out, and especially the 13 minute original composition sounds interesting.βComment
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Roger is doing what he usually does on his solo albums, which is smother the music with extraneous lyrics. Why not let the music breathe a bit more?Originally posted by deibd View Post
Pink Floyd at its best combines great music with great lyrics. Shine On said so much with so little words. He should go back to that formula.Comment
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today I listened it again
it really seemed to feel better and even more interesting - ha ha
however - this usually happens with Roger's opuses - I didnβt like The Final Cut for more then ten years at all - but now itβs almost the best franchise album for me
by the way - I still donβt like STCFTHOTS - even with lyrics even without - ha ha ha
and it's definitely better than We Shall Overcome for Nakba Day Rally with extended lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKfroB3ls7EComment
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Is it necessary to repeat many times that they don't like it? I understand that the criteria of some young and some old are closed to know... but it seems more like a campaign or a certified "approval" of a few who believe they have an authority over the collective taste.Comment
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In my opinion, the situation is as follows: music is perceived much easier than words. Musical accompaniment gives each listener their own emotions, thoughts and behavior. I don't mean marches and other "organizing music" now.
The words are much more precise, sometimes more merciless. Words can help, save, but also deeply hurt.
How wonderful described the situation with music progress in PF The Green Strat (https://ravinganddrooling.com/forum/...092#post355092) !
The words practically did not change, but each concert guaranteed new musical finds, improvisations and so on. This is probably the reason why Roger wants to put words first. He couldn't help but feel that the meaning of his lyrics is literally drowning in the music (stone... stone... stone) and doesn't always reach the listeners.
The best example of this is the march-like Run Like Hell, performed as an encore.Last edited by YASHA; 07-23-2023, 06:42 AM.TBS14Comment
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By definition, taste is personal πOriginally posted by voices2010 View Post
We can talk about the collective taste of those who like it and that of those who don't like it. Plus a third for those who don't judge. I wonder what the appearance of the Gaussian curve of a numerical rating would be?βComment
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Pretty sure everybody has the right to voice their opinions on a new release, whether it be positive or negative, or in the middle. This is the internet and it shouldn't be 1984'd to only showcase the good things.Originally posted by voices2010 View PostComment
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Going by certain reactions on here and certainly on comments on Jon Carin's post those of us who are critical of it are shouted down as not 'understanding' it or being anti Roger.
The new version adds no more meaning to the original in my eyes. Forget the music, Darkside is very simple in its meanings. Any attempt to elevate it into the pantheon of genius is misplaced and by that some of the ardent Roger fans seem to take umbridge with criticism.
ββββββFor balance I think The Final Cut is Rogers greatest work, I love that album (barring the inclusion of WTTBF). Amused to Death I'd put on my top 5 albums by anyone, even though Late Home Tonight and Watching TV are some of the most boring bits of music he's ever turned out.
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I look forward to being a poor rate music critic for the rest of the Redux!Comment
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FUCKING THANK YOU! Finally someone who gets it!!! I understand it and I'm certainly not anti-Roger. I agree with a lot of his views and I loved the concert I attended last year. I like the Lockdown stuff. I agree with his words/reasonings for "re-doing" the album, I think it can be a cool idea and I definitely don't think he's replacing the old one (he has even said it himself.)Originally posted by beeco View Post
But this release sucks, I'm just gonna be honest with you. I was intrigued at the start. And then when he said "moneyyyyy..." I started laughing my ass off. I wish you could see the face I made when I heard "WELCOME. TO HELL.". It felt like 6 hours to get through the entire thing. If it was just the low singing for the whole song, I'd be fine with it; but that middle dialog is ridiculous.
I can't wait to run the file through Izotope to completely erase the middle dialog, and to have a nice instrumental instead.Comment
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Let's ask the same question, but thusly: "Is it necessary to repeat many times that they like it?" (and keep the rest of the paragraph the same).Originally posted by voices2010 View PostComment
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