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    #61
    Originally posted by NuffM View Post

    Sleeves up: August 4th, 7th, 8th
    Sleeves down: August 5th, 6th, 9th
    (Bonus) Goldtop in Brick 2: every August night except for the 9th, where he swapped for the black strat.
    The Brick 1 close up is from August 9th.

    Of course all 3 were shot in full, there is a mountain of evidence to support it. The 6th? Well. Maybe it was fully shot by Lamden on the balcony behind the wall, but there's really no evidence. There aren't even pics of him up there (they're too dark).

    As for how to actually separate the 7th and 8th shots, and to calculate how much of each appears in both sets and the documentaries, it's very hard to say/explain witbout the resources on hand right now. Some nights just have A LOOK to them. Once you have a handful of photographs confirmed to be one night, it's very easy from there to make matches and then line it up to potential shots in the footage etc..

    The 7th 8mm film has helped confirm a lot of speculations I had years ago.

    I know that a lot of what I say in regards to this topic comes across as "just trust me bro!" energy, but I wouldn't be saying any of this if I hadn't dedicated literally probably thousands of hours into this. I always try to go the extra mile to confirm things. If I'm unsure of a night and a photographer still has their ticket stub, that helps confirm my suspicions or completely ruin them. Yeeeears ago, I had tons of photographs labeled as the 6th Dortmund show in 1981. I labeled them as these because the "18th" set that was on A Fleeting Glimpse for decades had a stub in there that said 18th, so I figured "why would it be false?", it never even came to mind. But then I get a brand new set (The new "RickB" set on AFG) with a scanned stub and it tells me 19th, not 18th. I asked him if he attended two shows or if there was any possibility that the stub was incorrect, but the stub literally matched the seat, and well. The "18th" stub didn't. So then it became a mission to figure out which photographs were REALLY the 18th. Years later, I have every single show across the tour identifiable based on photographic evidence... EXCEPT a couple of the LA shows. For WHATEVER reason, security in that damn arena was on the top of their fucking game and they didn't let ANYBODY with ANY kind of equipment in. Some folks did manage to smuggle in things with incredibly thought out methods (Mick The Hat used a wheelchair, Reinhardt used a PHONE BOOK!), I have a photo set confirmed to be the opening night of the tour, and the guy shot those on 110 film, which goes into a super tiny camera that anybody with a brain could smuggle in. The nights that I have yet to identify won't be unidentified for long as I have a guy on my hands that took photographs of quite a few LA shows, and it's currently a matter of waiting for them to be shipped out once things settle on his end.

    What really sucks is that some shows - while easily identifiable - just have almost no photographs at all. August 8th 1980 has a professional set by Neal Preston, some from Ian Russell, and a handful of sprinkled photographs that have surfaced over the years with seemingly no name attached. But there's nothing really remarkable... it sucks because that show is so well documented in terms of professional video, but there is no good audio and no good amateur photographs circulating. It sucks! The 7th and 9th have an unbelievable amount, and of course, both have a 30 minute long 8mm film.

    Anyway, that's the end of my rant.
    If you have more questions, please do let me know.
    Would you ever consider opening up some kind of online gallery for the photos you have collected? I think this kind of information is precious and deserves to be shared and disseminated, and I can think of no better medium than online.

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      #62
      Originally posted by GoblinMan View Post

      Would you ever consider opening up some kind of online gallery for the photos you have collected? I think this kind of information is precious and deserves to be shared and disseminated, and I can think of no better medium than online.
      I've been sharing the ones I'm allowed to release over to the website I mentioned, A Fleeting Glimpse. We have recently sent in about 15 total photo-sets. Most of them are Wall, but that's only because it's the era I absolutely specialize in. We've sent in one for '73, '75 and a couple for '77, and hopefully a lot more to come!

      Some of the photo-sets that have been sent in and are being uploaded soon contain some of the absolute best Wall pictures out there from an amateur lense. We have many many more on the way and those will of course be released as well. I'm releasing all of these with permission from the original photographers. Don't scam people!!!
      - The Pink Floyd Research Group -

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        #63
        Originally posted by NuffM View Post

        I've been sharing the ones I'm allowed to release over to the website I mentioned, A Fleeting Glimpse. We have recently sent in about 15 total photo-sets. Most of them are Wall, but that's only because it's the era I absolutely specialize in. We've sent in one for '73, '75 and a couple for '77, and hopefully a lot more to come!

        Some of the photo-sets that have been sent in and are being uploaded soon contain some of the absolute best Wall pictures out there from an amateur lense. We have many many more on the way and those will of course be released as well. I'm releasing all of these with permission from the original photographers. Don't scam people!!!
        Oh, fantastic! I'm sorry I missed you mentioning that they were already on that site, I'll have to check it out. I appreciate your Wall posts a lot; they tend to have a lot of minutiae that most others would miss or discard, but which I think are important-- they build an important part of the picture of one of music's most influential albums/tours. Both of which are heavily mythologized and surrounded by apocrypha, so your diligent fact-finding is incredibly helpful, even to just a casual reader like myself.

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          #64
          Originally posted by GoblinMan View Post

          Oh, fantastic! I'm sorry I missed you mentioning that they were already on that site, I'll have to check it out. I appreciate your Wall posts a lot; they tend to have a lot of minutiae that most others would miss or discard, but which I think are important-- they build an important part of the picture of one of music's most influential albums/tours. Both of which are heavily mythologized and surrounded by apocrypha, so your diligent fact-finding is incredibly helpful, even to just a casual reader like myself.
          No problem! A bunch aren't up on the site yet but were sent in just days ago. Keep an eye out this week!

          And also thanks so much!
          - The Pink Floyd Research Group -

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            #65
            Welp. On the topic of Wall stuff, Roger is now striking channels with Earls Court 1980 audio and pro-shot. I've received 2 copyright strikes for 3 videos, Notelu's Earls Court is gone, OaksMA's August 9th 1980 matrix is gone, and a lot more that used to be on the site for years that is now slowly vanishing.

            What gives???
            - The Pink Floyd Research Group -

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            • DesertRat
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              Interesting .. and frustrating!

            #66
            Could it be that he's finally planning to release something from that era?

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              #67
              Originally posted by Floydfan2410 View Post
              Could it be that he's finally planning to release something from that era?
              I doubt it... but never say never. The same thing happened with several other releases such as 2015 Wall and 2016 Pompeii, and countless other releases by other bands like Rush, Beatles etc.
              - The Pink Floyd Research Group -

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                #68
                Originally posted by NuffM View Post
                Welp. On the topic of Wall stuff, Roger is now striking channels with Earls Court 1980 audio and pro-shot. I've received 2 copyright strikes for 3 videos, Notelu's Earls Court is gone, OaksMA's August 9th 1980 matrix is gone, and a lot more that used to be on the site for years that is now slowly vanishing.

                What gives???
                I doubt Roger personally bothers to scroll through YouTube after old bootleg videos and say "I want this video down". It's more a label thing I assume.

                It's still a shame though.

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                  #69
                  Originally posted by ILuvHoney View Post

                  I doubt Roger personally bothers to scroll through YouTube after old bootleg videos and say "I want this video down". It's more a label thing I assume.

                  It's still a shame though.
                  I seriously doubt it's a label thing. These are all happening throughout many different hours of the days at random. I say this is 100% on purpose. This doesn't just happen out of nowhere. Not with Wall.
                  - The Pink Floyd Research Group -

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                    #70
                    Could be a bot picking it up.

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                      #71
                      The strikes were done manually, not automatic.
                      - The Pink Floyd Research Group -

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