Who of you actively collect Silvers / Liberated Boots???

[Llama]

The only 3 I have bought in the lastdecade or so is 3 Roger Waters ones that I actually found in HMV here in the UK, Pros & Cons of NY, Live Radio (KAOS) & Is it the Fifth? Paid no more that £30 for all 3 so didn't feel ripped off at all, those Japanes silvers cost more than that each, could never justify paying those prices however tempting some titles are.

There was a user over on Y who was posting links to a blog of liberated silvers, can anyone remember the site they used to link? Sure it began with a G but cannot find it in my history/bookmarks.

https://gullveig.org/

[Rex]

Yeah, that's it.

Many thanks.
Rex.

[DaveTheRave]

Back in the 1990’s I would buy some but they were usually expensive ($25/CD), which is kind of high when you’re a college student. The best one I picked up was “Plays the Animals”, which was the famous May 9th, 1977 concert. Others were a bit hit or miss, but I was able to cross reference titles on this site (brings back memories!): https://www.pf-roio.de

Sometime I would order them from a mail order place in Florida. Fast forward a few years and I lost all my CDs when my apartment was burglarized. Over time as things moved online to burning CDs and then torrents I was able to get the good stuff back, often in better quality. I would never pay for them now, but they served a purpose back in the 90s.

[Skinny12]

I remember three bootlegs which made my head explode: London 1972 & MSG 1977 from the most famous Swingin‘ Pig Records and Oakland 1977 with CWTAE, i just could not believe it.

Most Bootlegs i bought on a fleemarket after listening to it for 20 seconds on a crappy headphone. Most of them sucked, but it was magic to get home and have a winner…

Swingin‘ Pig Records was mostly a sure shot, Great Dane too. Triangle were ugly and mostly bad, the italian WPOCM were mostly bad but somehow the most exciting…

My most iconic and first Boots were:

Oakland 1977
Amsterdam 1969
MSG 1977
Best of tour 72
Brutish Temptations (Pepperland 70)
The Embryo (Fillmore 70)
Libest Spacement Monitor (BBC 1970)
BBC 1974 (Triangle)
Black holes in the Sky (London 1974)
Staying home to watch the rain (Hollywood Bowl 72)
Ivor Wynne 1975

As i wrote, i had about 600-800 most of them were utter crap. But some were pure magic…

Best
Nils

[Mark45]

I may start buying the Neutral Zone silvers, as I believe they were the first ones releasing bootleg CDs? Or was the CD version of WorldTour the very first one?

[aybesea]

I believe that the Neutral Zone CDs were Jon Wizardo. I had a bunch. Realize that they are lifted from LP.

[mr.gup]

I stopped buying silvers around 20 years ago, when trading CDRs was easier. But I still have them, I guess around 100
But I purchased three silvers again, but not live recordings:
Wish you were here - Nimbus Supercut (No label)
Animals 8-Track 2008 remastered (PEC)
The Extraction Tapes - Remastered , 4 CDS incl WYWH and Animals from 8 Track and LP

And I am still looking to get a CD or CDR of Wish you were here DJ Special Copy . Any help is welcome 😄

[aybesea]

We are only missing 4 Sigma releases:

Hakone Aphrodite 1971: Master Recording	Sigma 138	2015	1971-08-07	Pink Floyd
Aphrodite 1971	Sigma 117	2014	1971-08-07	Pink Floyd
The Gunner's Dream	Sigma 094	2013	1984-07-26	Roger Waters
Brussels Affair	Sigma 066	2011	1972-12-05	Pink Floyd

If anyone can help with these, please reach out to me on PM. We can start working through the Amity's next.

Also, if anyone would like to join a small subgroup to specifically go after Bootleg labels, please PM and let me know.

Steve

[TheWalrusWasPaul67]

I have the files for Sigma 066 but they are MP3 only sadly.

[vince666]

tiwaz10 : oh yes, unfortunately their business is profitable and the only thing we can do is to keep sharing the "liberated" to at least make their market a bit smaller.
I believe that, back in the 90s, they used to make larger pressing runs than nowadays, also because there was no internet and no torrents or hubs.

In fact, I am very positive about sharing the "liberates"... much better to also have them freely available than not!

As for myself, I had happened to buy just a few vinyl boots back in the late 80s and very few silver pressed CD boots back in the 90s.
Also, I happened to buy a couple silver pressed CDs (and also cassettes!) which were legally sold here in Italy at newspaper shops as partworks... this happened because, back then, there was a law here so that a recording was public domain after only 20 years.
I still have a few of those silvers which were legally sold here and they also show a genuine SIAE stamp! (the italian equivalent of RIAA or GEMA, etc)
I mean boots like "Around the Mystic" etc... there was also the 3xCD box "from underground to the moon" from early 90s (i don't have this silver anymore) with the SIAE stamp and it's funny that it does contain DSOTM from the BBC nov 16th 1974 but it's listed as january 1972 most likely to make it look like a recording from more than 20 years before.

A funny silver I still have, again legally sold with the SIAE stamp, is the BBC 1970 recording packaged like a gatefold vinyl LP with the head of a pig which comes out to your face when you open the gatefold... this must be quite rare and precious now... title is "Libest Spacement Monitor"... found a pic of it on the net, to avoid making them myself.

[tiwaz10]

some old stuff...
The truth is that going back to the past... when there weren't so many media... and you could listen to "from underground to the moon" in mp3 at 128kbs... it was a joy...

[DaveTheRave]

I used to own that 1971 Montreaux disc and recall being frustrated by the slow speed. Must have been a problem with the tape they used. A pity considering the otherwise great sound quality. Experiences like that turned me off to buying CDs. The bootleggers don’t care about quality control.

[MrFender]

First one I ever saw / bought. Tongue Tied and Twisted, LA 1987:

[DeepCreatures]

Speaking of From Underground to the Moon, did anyone else run across the numbered silk boxes sets version? I do not at all recall where I got mine, but I still have it. Still have my tin box version of The Floyds of London, which was the 1971 BBC session. I used to have that Total Eclipse box set too.... although I'm pretty sure mine was the second printing of it.

[Skinny12]

some old stuff...
The truth is that going back to the past... when there weren't so many media... and you could listen to "from underground to the moon" in mp3 at 128kbs... it was a joy...

OMG! I had everything you show on that picture…

[Blanchistone]

Never been the biggest fan of all the boot labels releasing the same thing over and over but I'm a fan of collecting vinyl boots. I'm surprised that Kornyfone/TAKRL hasn't been mentioned yet, I really like the aesthetics of the old 70/80s boots with handmade / handdrawn covers. They released some cool PF, LZ or Rolling Stones stuff, some great stuff pop up on Ebay regurarly even though I don't think I'll ever spend hundreds on 1 item, I don't think it's worth it. But I recently got my hands on a nice old french bootleg, the pre-Water's gate, if anyone ever saw it: http://www.floydboots.com/pages/s13.php
The little pirate stamp on the back is quite cool, never seen it before! I should take better photos to include on floydboots since there is another insert.
Anyone other fan of Kornyfone here?

[aybesea]

I used to have loads of TMOQ, TAKRL and Wizardo boots... probably 100 or so. Sold them a couple decades ago. For their time, these were lifesavers and the only way to hear this stuff with any real hope of high fidelity. I'm not a fanboy of boots, but some of the labels have "earned their keep" in my book.

[MrFender]

Lot of discussion on those early "labels" in Heylin's book. Need to re-read this someday.

[aybesea]

That's an interesting read, not entirely accurate but very entertaining. Other fun reads: https://geniusbookpublishing.com/pro...39432020164707 and http://www.floydboots.com/pages/JonWizardo.php

Steve