Definitive SBD/OAM/IEM Boot List

[JerryIsBored]

Not sure if this is the correct forum, but I'll be sure to move it if need be.

I remember there were a couple of threads like this back on Y, but to my knowledge, they were never completed. Niptote's lists did a pretty good job of telling what was what. However, I think that there should be a dedicated list for soundboard, open-air-mic, and in-ear-monitor/monitor mix recordings. I seem to remember that in threads for some bootlegs there was debate over what type of recording it was, and that there were some SBD's labeled as audience recs, and some audience recs labeled as SBD's. So, I was thinking that we could discuss and create a definitive list of all these types of boots.

So I'm thinking that this list include all sources, including matrixes (some of the IEM recordings are only available through matrixes), same goes for the OAM recordings. I would also include BBC sessions and radio broadcasts in this list as well.

Solo SBD/OAM/IEM's should also be included.

I'm copying this list from the Steve Hoffman forums to get started, as it's the most complete list I've seen to date.

Pink Floyd World Tour 1968
- Live at Palazzo Dello Sport, Rome (Italy) - 6 May 1968 (Pop Festival broadcast incl. Roger Waters Interview)
- Live at Théâtre du Huitième, Lyon (France) - 16 October 1968 (telecast)


The Man / The Journey Tour 1969
- Live at Mothers, Birmingham - 27 April 1969 (partly released on Ummagumma Live LP)
- Live at Manchester College of Commerce (UK) - 2 May 1969 (partly released on Ummagumma Live LP)
- Live at Paradiso, Amsterdam (Netherlands) - 9 August 1969 (planned as a radio broadcast but unused, there were issues with microphones for the vocals)
- Live at Concertgebouw, Amsterdam (Netherlands) - 17 Sep 1969


Atom Heart Mother World Tour 1970/71
- Live at Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA (USA) - 29 April 1970
- Live at Altes Casino, Montreux (Switzerland) - 21 & 22 November 1970 (recorded by EMI but previously unused)
- Live at Paris Cinema, London (UK) - 30 September 1971, BBC Broadcast with John Peel
- Live at Hakone Aphrodite, Japan - 6 & 7 August 1971


Filming Pink Floyd at Pompeii (1971)
- Live at Ancient Roman Amphitheatre, Pompeii (Italy) - October 1971 (released as a film in 1972)
(- additional recordings from a film studio in Paris, late 1971)


Dark Side Of The Moon Tour 1972/73
- Live at Brighton Dome, Brighton (UK) - 29 June 1972
- Live at Palais des Sports, Paris (France) (with Roland Petit Ballet) - January/February 1973 (telecast)


French Summer Tour 1974
???


British Winter Tour 1974
Live at Empire Pool, Wembley (UK) - 14-17 November 1974
(the material is included in the Immersion boxes of DSOTM and WYWH, and on the Early Years box set)


Wish You Were Here Tour 1975
???


Animals / In The Flesh Tour 1977
- soundboard recordings were made on stereo cassettes but sound quality is unknown


The Wall Tour 1980-81
- Live at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (USA) - 24-28 February 1980
- Live at Earl's Court, London - 4-9 August 1980
- Live at Earl's Court, London - 13-17 June 1981


A Momentary Lapse Of Reason Tour 1987-90
- Live at Omni Coliseum, Atlanta (Georgia) (USA) - 3-5 November 1987
- Live at Place d'Armes of the Château, Versailles (France) - 21-22 June 1988
- Live at Nassau Coliseum, Long Island, NY (USA) - 19-23 August 1988
- Live at Grand Canal, Venice (Italy) - 15 July 1989
- Live at Knebworth Park, Stevenage (UK) - 30 June 1990


The Devision Bell Tour 1993-94
- Live at Niedersachsenstadion, Hanover (Germany) - 17 August 1994
- Live at Festa de l'Unità, Modena (Italy) - 17 September 1994
- Live at Cinecitta, Rome (Italy) - 21 September 1994
- Live at Earl's Court, London (UK) - 13-29 October 1994
(probably they recorded the whole tour, I'm not sure)


Live 8 2005
- Live 8, Hyde Park, London (UK) - 2 July 2005


Syd Barrett Tribute Concert
- Live at Barbican Centre, London (UK) - 10 May 2007


(I would include the "semi-reunion" in Roger's The Wall concert in London from 12 May 2011
[David Gilmour's cameo in 'Comfortably Numb' and together with Nick Mason on 'Outside the Wall'] as an exception, but were soundboard recordings made of this gig?)

Would be great to collect more performances of the band by hoping for some future releases from authorised hands. It was said that the whole Animals tour was recorded on stereo cassettes, though the sound quality and mixing process is unknown, would be amazing to hear those concerts straight from soundboards, after I was already amazed about some audience tapes made during that tour, especially Oakland and Paris. The band was on fire especially in 1977! My ears are so hungry for it!


Additional thoughts: There are some locations I'm not so sure that they were recorded via soundboard:

- Live at Hakone Aphrodite, Japan 1971 (I think the video I once saw has the audio from one of the Montreux concerts in 1970)
- Live at Brighton Dome, Brighton (UK) - 20 January 1972
- Live at Knebworth Festival, Stevenage (UK) - 5 July 1975, with Roy Harper singing on 'Have A Cigar'
- Live at Deutschlandhalle Berlin 1977 (a rumour or a legit thing released on bootlegs?)

[JerryIsBored]

It should be noted that for now, unless some massive proof comes out, that this list will contain only SBD/OAM/IEM's that we know to exist and are currently available. So for now, no RCMH multitrack talk (even though I really want them to be real), or talk about SBD's that do exist but are yet unreleased. This list will only include the SBD/OAM/IEM recs that we have currently available.

HOWEVER - I will make an exception for SBD's that we have samples of, such as I think February 12th, 1980, which has short samples available thanks to Rolf.

And I should also probably define what these terms mean for those that may not know all of the bootleg lingo yet:
- A soundboard (SBD) is a recording taken directly from the mixing board at a concert
- An open-air-mic recording (OAM) is a recording taken using microphones pointed at the band's PA. Note that this differs from a regular audience (AUD) recording because it was most likely sanctioned by the band, and had the microphones very close to their on-stage PA.
-An in-ear-monitor mix (IEM), or just a regular monitor mix, is a recording taken from an individual member of the band's monitors (the speakers/earpice that helps them hear what they're doing better on stage). These are usually made by hijacking the radio frequency used to transmit these monitor mixes, and are mostly found matrixed with other audience (AUD) recordings, simply to fill out the sound.

[lennyif]

For 1969, there were some reels that were teased with a sample like 15 years ago. Those may be from the Birmingham and Manchester dates you mentioned already though. Boy, I'd love for that stuff to turn up.

[2Ravens1Eye]

Ha, just found this thread and thought of the exact same sample that popped up years ago. Has been a holy grail ROIO for me ever since.

[direwolf]

For 1969, there were some reels that were teased with a sample like 15 years ago. Those may be from the Birmingham and Manchester dates you mentioned already though. Boy, I'd love for that stuff to turn up.

Can anyone pop this sample on Mega or suchlike - can't seem to find it amongst the hard drives / DVD-Rs.

Many thanks

[Alanko]

I thought the consensus was that Fillmore West, 29th April 1970 was just a really stable, high quality audience recording?

[aybesea]

The KQED stuff is SBD

[TheMoebLoop]

Were the 14th and 17th November 1974 performances recorded in any of those ways, and are they available to us? Obviously, the second question is rhetorical, but, as far as I know, there is no evidence of them ever being captured as an SBD, OAM, or IEM. Recordings of the former are altogether missing.

[Alanko]

Maybe a question I asked on the old Y, but why are there so few Pink Floyd soundboards? Was their PA system so boutique that people couldn't easily tap into it and make discrete recordings? Or was it basic but constantly manned by sound technicians?

There are Led Zep soundboards from early 1969 to their final European shows in 1980, with a fairly consistent representation across tours and continents. Peter Grant used to roam venues looking for bootleggers and occasionally destroy or confiscate equipment. Yet we have a heap of dry monitor mixes to listen to.

[aybesea]

From my experience, it is nearly impossible to patch into the soundboard without the sound guy allowing it. So, it would seem to me that the answer is that the sound guys didn't allow it. Why? Probably the band layed down the law.

This is just a guess.

[DaveTheRave]

There are Led Zep soundboards from early 1969 to their final European shows in 1980, with a fairly consistent representation across tours and continents. Peter Grant used to roam venues looking for bootleggers and occasionally destroy or confiscate equipment. Yet we have a heap of dry monitor mixes to listen to.

There are stories out there about how thieves broke into Jimmy Page’s home and stole lots of soundboard recordings that later were released by the bootleg companies.

[TheMoebLoop]

Must have been David Bowie or some other competitor for the crown of foremost carrier of the torch of Aleister Crowley.

[JerryIsBored]

From my experience, it is nearly impossible to patch into the soundboard without the sound guy allowing it. So, it would seem to me that the answer is that the sound guys didn't allow it. Why? Probably the band layed down the law.

This is just a guess.

The band usually wouldn't let people patch in, from what I can tell. However, the would occasionally (more often in later years) run tapes for review before the next show. This was so that they could hone and rehearse parts of the show without having to play through them. That's where some of our SBD's come from, especially those from 87-89.

I'm looking through my archives and putting a list together, I'll try to post it in here ASAP.

[mekmad]

I do hope that the Animals tour was taped but have my doubts after coming up empty for the Animals re-issue.

[Melvin (That's The Name)]

I do hope that the Animals tour was taped but have my doubts after coming up empty for the Animals re-issue.

Gilmour has loads of boards from 1977 and it was originally planned to include something for the box set, but after Jackson presented the mixes, Gilmour deemed it "not good enough"...which is more than likely total bullshit. I don't know why Gilmour and others can't just suck up their egos and release these things like The Dead do. If their catalog ever sells I hope it goes to RHINO Records, the ones hosting the Grateful Dead vaults.

In summary, Gilmour would rather put crappy CDs on Spotify for copyright than ever release a fucking board.

[JerryIsBored]

Gilmour has loads of boards from 1977 and it was originally planned to include something for the box set, but after Jackson presented the mixes, Gilmour deemed it "not good enough"...which is more than likely total bullshit. I don't know why Gilmour and others can't just suck up their egos and release these things like The Dead do. If their catalog ever sells I hope it goes to RHINO Records, the ones hosting the Grateful Dead vaults.

In summary, Gilmour would rather put crappy CDs on Spotify for copyright than ever release a fucking board.

The main problem with the 77 boards is that none of them were multitracked, only stereo SBD tapes. If I remember correctly, they only ran these tapes for review and rehearsal purposes, and likely recorded over them to save money on tape costs.

[keleven]

Does the 1/23/70 Paris radio broadcast count? Not the greatest SQ but presumably a pro recording.

Also 9/19/87 Philadelphia.