So far I prefer Roger's 2006,2007 & 2008 version of DSOTM over the 2023 version.
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I love it. I don't even understand the hate. For decades we've been watching him put on greatest hits shows where he just duplicates the studio versions (complete with lip-synching), and now he's finally doing something different, and it's what he should have been doing all along, rearranging the songs to fit his current voice and mood. Yes, it's chill, mellow stuff - not music to dance to. This is a problem for Pink Floyd fans?Comment
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Who or what ever, the drums are is shocking.(And on the last tour)
Its got that "Demo" feel about it.
Gone are the days bands go into a studio and play/record together in a room.
Its all spliced up multi tracks and instruments plugged into a mixing desk now.
This makes for a soulless mechanical sound with no space or atmosphere that is cleaned and gated to within a inch of its life.
Funny thing is back in the 80s Roger was banging on about Holophonic sound production which created space and depth by tricking the brain.
Well he aint tricking anybodies brain anymore!Comment
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OK. Let me state my biases up front. I'm not a fan of Roger Waters's post-Animals work. Not even The Wall (I loved it as a teenager but have outgrown it now). I particularly don't buy into the "creative genius" hype. When the news first surfaced that Roger was going to reinterpret DSotM my immediate thought was "Why? That's a stupid idea." But as some of the Rog fans have pointed out, surely a reinterpretation is not only valid, but it doesn't have to detract from the original, which will always be there. And surely a reinterpretation is better than a note-for-note replication.
So, I just listened to this. I think it's a valid reinterpretation. Do I love it? No. But I don't object to it either. On the plus side, I'm relieved that Roger has parked his godawful strained and out of tune "emotive" voice. The gentler tone to his voice is a relief to my ears. The musical arrangement, while not revolutionary, is again a change from all the note-perfect cover bands that kinda miss the point (to my taste). I even smiled at the bird noises at the end, and was wondering whether he was just having a laugh at all the people that found the bird loop in Grantchester Meadows irritating. I did not get the point of the new, extra words at the beginning, and if there was intended to be some kind of message in there, it all went over my head. But mercifully (again to my tastes) it was over soon enough.
I wouldn't buy this, but at least it's different from regurgitating the same old over and over again.Comment
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There are opinions that cause me more laziness than the supposed laziness caused by the new versions of Roger. at least the latter are music. These versions are not intended to be an exact copy of TDSOTM and it's for the best! Why would you want a version like 2007 so that the discussion now is about whether the new guitarist did it better than David Gilmour?Comment
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Time (to stop)!Comment
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DS was conceived as suite, a Rock Opera. So whatever I can think now about those two pieces is out of contest, to say the less.
There's people talking about dance songs... sigh!
My best album in 1973 was Tubular Bells. One of the reason it wasn't DS was the danceable Money, another was that I felt a psychedelic PF fan.... If you understand what I mean.
Before to say something definitive about this remaking all of us should try, at least TO TRY, to well consider all was done by our 4 heroes after THE WALL, maybe even during The Wall.
We must accept that masterpieces were'nt released after that. Some good song, some fragments of songs. Nothing more, nothing can even be compared with the masterpieces of the past.
Our 4 heroes can top to masterpiece when they were all 4. Period.
Talking about Rog, after 30 years of that mediocrity, now he comes with such an idea. OK!
First teasing question : why DS? Why a worldwide perfection and not something really needed to be remade, like the most of his works after The Wall?
Because all I wrote, my out of contest consideration of the two pieces is.
Money - Money ! It's a ...CRAP. No other words
Time - That boring start makes me cry. That drum is hurting my ears, the rendition of the lyrics is poor, esp when Rog is not alone.
IMO the only good moment is from min. 3 to 4, maybe to 4:40, because the organ and the melodies.... and despite the drum.
All the rest deep and flat boring like a Ca Ira or Pros and Cons.
The whole Remaking will be a failure keeping this level of Quality. IMOLast edited by WRomanus; 08-26-2023, 01:15 AM.Comment
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I have not enjoyed any of these new versions.
It's great if someone enjoys them, but they are definitely not my cup of tea!!
TDSOTM, played such an important role in my formidable years. The only deviation from the original work that doesn't irritate me, are their live recordings. This album is pretty much sacred in my eyes!!Comment
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Like I said, I honestly can't figure out why some people don't like it. The comments I've seen are all to the effect that it's too quiet, slow, boring, minimalist, whatever. I can't wrap my head around how somebody could make that complaint and then go off and listen to, say, five Love Scene outtakes from Zabriskie Point or an extended Set the Controls improvisation. I can understand why it wouldn't appeal to the kind of people who go to Floyd shows to hear Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2 and Money. But it confuses me that true fans can't find something to like here.Originally posted by rontoon View Post
Do you really think that some fans don't like this because we can't dance to it?
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Why do you think that every slow music must be great if you like one slow song? Please try to accept that taste is an individual thing.
If this thread ends again discussing only how someone dares liking something or not, there will be 10 threads to close…
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Exactly. People have different tastes. You either understand it or you don't. You either like it or you don't. I hated Money, and I think Time is pretty nice but I wouldn't loop it. If you liked Money, cool. That's your business, not mine. I just don't personally like it. The exact same can be said with every piece of music ever written, you like it or you don't.Originally posted by Skinny12 View PostComment
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There's loads in the Floyd cannon that I think is absolutely lousy so I don't get all this 'true fan' stuff.
I've listened to Time about 10 times so far and I'll probably whack it into one of my more 'relaxing' playlists. The instrumentation has really grown on me, apart from the horrendous drums.
The one song I'm actually lookimg forward to (maybe dreading) is Any Colour You Like which in my opinion is the best song on Dark Side.Comment
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Yes indeed, Korn's take on ABITW is excellent! Godsmack does a pretty good job of Time, too.Originally posted by MGoBlue1989 View PostComment
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