Glenn Povey article on the November 1967 Hendrix/Floyd tour

[Simond]

https://www.loudersound.com/features...downs-followed

[swanlee]

Thanks for sharing, wondered what Glenn was up to these days

[TheGreenStrat]

“They weren’t inclined to socialise,” confirmed Keith Emerson. “I do recall one moment on the tour of overhearing Roger Waters ask the rest of the band: ‘Well, when is it your turn in the studio?’ And I asked Roger: ‘What? You don’t all go in the studio together?’ And he said: ‘Oh, no, no, no. If we go in separately it avoids arguments.’”

That’s too funny. The article pretty much sums up the Floyd’s middle class, quiet, amongst themselves type behavior that set them apart from other bands. Their weirdly mature arguments were more civilized than full out yelling matches. People said that they were the most well behaved groups even when it came to their increasingly intense boiling points of the later years.

[Pottel]

Harvey Goldsmith speaks at length about this tour in last weeks' Rockonteurs (a very enjoyable episode btw)

[TheGreenStrat]

Harvey Goldsmith speaks at length about this tour in last weeks' Rockonteurs (a very enjoyable episode btw)

Rockonteurs is a great podcast. Most pods aren’t so good but the comraderie between the hosts, the guests, and their engagement makes it fun. The Johnny Marr episode is a cool listen as are most of the episodes including their employer one Mr. Nick Mason.

[psychedelicpiper]

“They weren’t inclined to socialise,” confirmed Keith Emerson. “I do recall one moment on the tour of overhearing Roger Waters ask the rest of the band: ‘Well, when is it your turn in the studio?’ And I asked Roger: ‘What? You don’t all go in the studio together?’ And he said: ‘Oh, no, no, no. If we go in separately it avoids arguments.’”

That’s too funny. The article pretty much sums up the Floyd’s middle class, quiet, amongst themselves type behavior that set them apart from other bands. Their weirdly mature arguments were more civilized than full out yelling matches. People said that they were the most well behaved groups even when it came to their increasingly intense boiling points of the later years.

Perhaps that quote was Waters talking to Syd? There was a period of time where Syd apparently used to argue with the band in the studio. He would mock them for not liking AMM and that sort of thing.

[TheGreenStrat]

Perhaps that quote was Waters talking to Syd? There was a period of time where Syd apparently used to argue with the band in the studio. He would mock them for not liking AMM and that sort of thing.

That’s probably part of it. According to a band that knew the Floyd around ‘67 and also other musicians who knew them well before, a lot of the bolshie argumentation (no surprise) was spurned on by Roger and was regarded as an egoist even back then. Roger’s need to take over and attempt to achieve a vision was certainly one of the factors. The quote from the article was most likely talking about how the band had their growing pains and worked in the studio especially as they grew as a band without Syd.

[psychedelicpiper]

That’s probably part of it. According to a band that knew the Floyd around ‘67 and also other musicians who knew them well before, a lot of the bolshie argumentation (no surprise) was spurned on by Roger and was regarded as an egoist even back then. Roger’s need to take over and attempt to achieve a vision was certainly one of the factors. The quote from the article was most likely talking about how the band had their growing pains and worked in the studio especially as they grew as a band without Syd.

All the photos and footage I’ve ever seen of them and stories I’ve read about them nearly always had them in the studio together, with Syd and post-Syd. Except during the Ummagumma studio album. And post-Animals, of course.

Hence my theory here.

Yeah, Waters had a big ego, and he was also the one wanting to kick Syd out on the spot during the U.S. tour.

Pretty sure Gilmour and Wright and Mason would have been more patient with Syd without Waters in the way.

[TheGreenStrat]

All the photos and footage I’ve ever seen of them and stories I’ve read about them nearly always had them in the studio together, with Syd and post-Syd. Except during the Ummagumma studio album. And post-Animals, of course.

Hence my theory here.

Yeah, Waters had a big ego, and he was also the one wanting to kick Syd out on the spot during the U.S. tour.

Pretty sure Gilmour and Wright and Mason would have been more patient with Syd without Waters in the way.

Definitely. Syd’s antics and lack of cooperation were insane and they were all ready to move on from him cruel as it might’ve been (similar to Brian Jones.) Considering the direction they went in immediately following Saucerful it’s also a musical one that probably wouldn’t have occurred had Roger and co kept Syd around in various capacities.